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Update from Oregon III

Hello All,

Thanks for reading, checking in or checking back, as the the case may be.

Our nuptials are fast approaching, so Miel and I have been busy dealing with an increasing procession of friends and relatives, and we have been running around taking care of many small details. However, our family has been great, so things haven’t been as hectic as they could have been.

In terms of finance, there have been a few updates

1) Account Consolidation: You’ll recall a couple of weeks ago that wanted to consolidate some of our accounts. We picked up the forms to roll our DRIP accounts in our Schwab investment account a couple of days ago. After things calm down, we should be able to fill these out and send them in.

2) Wedding Expenses: Miel and I sat down yesterday and went over our budget. It looks we are over budget, but only by about $1,500. Fortunately we were able to cover the shortfall with some funds from my most recent tax return, so we are on otherwise on track for both our wedding and honeymoon expenses.

Thanks for reading!

Best,

James

Update from Oregon II

Hi All,

Just wanted to sit down and let our readers know what we have been up to over the past few days.
Since Miel and I are getting married, we have been spending the past few days visiting family and making preparation for our wedding, we haven’t had a lot of time to discuss finance, or much of anything else for that matter.

That said, there were a couple of observations I wanted to share:

Gas Prices: Its brutal. Along the main highway in Oregon (Interstate 5), gas is running $2.99 to $2.89 a gallon. Since most of the state is rural, most people have have drive everywhere. What this means is that costs for EVERYTHING increase. For example, for my fiancee’s parents to buy groceries, they have to spend about a gallon of gas to get to the nearest grocery store. What this means is that they can automatically add $2.89 to the cost of whatever they are doing. If they buy a soda, they might spend maybe $1.29, now the soda costs $1.29+$2.89, or $4.18. Image that pretty much everyone in the US, is in the same boat, and its easy to see that the economic effects are huge.

I always knew this intellectually, but its totally different to witness it happening.

Wedding Overspending: We haven’t looked specifically at our wedding budget, but I guarantee you we’ve gone over by a LOT. How much specifically, I don’t know, but it might be in the range of a thousand or two.

But, you know what, I don’t care.

Our wedding is going to be a great party. I’m just going to hold onto my hat and see how crazy it gets.

Best,

James

Dennys


Generally one should not buy stocks that trade for under 10 dollars. However, I’ve been eyeing Denny’s (DENN) recently. Its stock chart looks atrocious, but recently the company seems to have been picking up. I just briefly looked over their financial statements and their net income, balance sheet and cash flow have all improved over the past three fiscal years.

Also, since I’ve been out in Oregon, I’ve seen that Denny’s is actually pretty popular, Miel’s grandma likes it and, hey, sometimes I get a craving for some of their pancakes and sausage. Yum!

Since its only trading at $3.68 (as of 6/22/06), it might be worth picking up 100 shares or so.

Best,

James

Wisdom of the Elders

James & I were fortunate enough to listen to James’ grandparents tell all sorts of stories about their lives. Along with 56 years of marriage, they have also been fortunate with their investments. James’ Grandpa Miller began his life in the middle of the great depression and had no shoes for 4-6 months a year. He only got one pair a year, and they either wore out or he grew out of them before the next time to buy shoes.

Grandpa Miller has been investing in stocks for fifty years now, and had a few rules that he sticks to:

1) He likes picking individual stocks, and isn’t a fan of mutual funds. He feels more confidence in knowing the details of the one stock that he picks.

2) He subscribes to Investor’s Business Daily and watches their top 100 picks. He likes to check out those at the bottom of the list with a good price to earnings ratio and invest in those. Considering that our big pick is now at #1 in the IBD ratings, I tend to like this tip quite a bit.

3) He sells if the stock drops below around 15%. This was also a tip that James’ dad recently offered as some of the best advice he has received for managing investments.

4) The Millers have also been involved with investment rental endeavors throughout much of their adult lives. While not as much is gained in the day to day cash flow, they have done very well with appreciation of their various properties.

5) The Millers have also saved up and purchased all of their cars with cash. This has enabled them not to pay interest on monthly car payments . Instead they act as if they have car payments, putting away whatever is seen as necessary for the next car that would need to purchase. By doing this, they gain interest every month rather than give it to someone else.

6) Grandpa Miller also contributes his successes to having a great wife to take care of the children and being a partner in reaching their goals.

7) Last but not least, the Millers are known for their frugality and living within their means. This certainly comes from growing up in the great depression, but it means they are now secure in their retirement.

We were happy to learn a few tips from the Millers and will certainly keep these in mind with our own financial planning.

Best Wishes,

Miel

Refining Our Post Wedding Financial Goals

Our wedding is coming up on July 1st. Since this is just a couple of weeks away, it’s going to mean a tremendous change in our finances aside from just shelling out a whole ton of money for the reception. So, we’ve put some thought into our medium term (3 to 5 year) goals after our nuptials. Some goals we’ve definitely decided on, some we are still batting around.

The one thing we have definitely decided on is maxing out Miel’s retirement. Now that we are done saving for the wedding, Miel can shift the funds she has been reserving for our home and then wedding savings, to our retirement. The means having the ability to increase her contribution from $300 a month to soon putting at least $700 directly into her 403(b) TIAA and CREF account. This makes a lot of sense from a financial standpoint. First it will lower our taxable income, second it will give a market rate (less fees) on the money she’s investing in her retirement and third, we’ll both feel a bit more secure knowing that Miel has something more put away.

We are batting around three other ideas.

1) Saving for another investment property. Personally, I really like the idea of owning real estate and think it makes a lot of sense in the long run.

2) Setting up a ROTH IRA with an eye to hand it on to our children. The big idea here is that one can give one’s ROTH to one’s children without tax liability. Since we don’t have any children yet, any funds in the account would have plenty of time to grow. Ideally, we might present the account to the child as part of their inheritance, or we might give it earlier, with some strings attached.

3) Miel and I have been discussing going traveling around the world for the longest time. While our homes in Oregon and DC are beautiful, we both would really value the chance to see the world before we have children. We had discussed raising $30,000 for a year long trip, but our reduced income due to my full time student status has complicated this a bit. We will discuss this in more detail when we return from our honeymoon and set up a plan to achieve our around the world trip.

We might get some cash wedding gifts, so we anticipate actually being able to get started on funding one or more of these goals.

As always we’ll keep you updated!

Best,

James

Update from Oregon

As you frequent readers of our blog will know, both James and I are from Oregon. Well, we are back home to lay the ground work for our wedding. Since we are crashed at my twin sister’s place, we won’t get a chance to send you all the kind of detailed quality postings we normally do.

BUT, as we were flying across the country at 30,000 feet, we did discuss our finances and are considering the option of putting some of our financial gifts from our wedding into a ROTH IRA to hand down to our children. We think this would be a good use of the money and demonstrate the value of compound interest to our children. We’ll give you more details about what the steps will be to set this up, and more reasons why it is a good idea as we go through the motions.

Mostly we were excited to learn from David Bach’s ‘Smart Couples Finish Rich,’ that these can be passed down through generations, while increasing in value and without income tax exposure. James’ dad just brought us two bottles of wine that he bought back when James was born for $10-$13 a bottle, with the intention of giving them to him as a wedding gift. Now when we google them, they are worth $250 & $450. So I suppose this is our way of passing down this tradition.

Good Night!

Miel&James

Social Approval, PF Blogging and Honesty

The impression I’ve been getting is that not everyone feels discussing personal finance on the internet is appropriate. For example, Miel’s ex-boyfriend recently found our blog and thought it was crass that we put so much personal information on-line. Some of our friends have also been concerned that the amount of disclosure we have on our blog might potentially cause conflict. For example, one of our friends said that someone might become jealous or feel slighted if we refused a request for money.

Not only that, I’ve noticed that sometimes when I tell people about our blog, sometimes the response is “Oh geeze, I’ve got to start taking care of my finances a little more” or sometimes I’ll just get an embarrassed silence.

I think this is a shame. Why, you might ask?

Its because honesty is a predicate for success. Specifically, if you intend to get ahead financially, its a lot easier if you’re willing to discuss your money openly and honestly. For me, this means not disguising my identity on-line and it means truthfully revealing information like my net worth or income (with a reasonable degree of safety of course). Generally speaking, a lack of willingness to share ones financial information means its harder to be truthful about ones finances and accordingly to get ahead in today’s world.

Best,

James

Bach’s Smart Couples Finish Rich – Part 1

Miel and I picked up a copy of David Bach‘s “Smart Couples Finish Rich” a couple of weeks ago.
We have reviewed the book in some detail, and have decided to do three postings to give the reader an good sense of what Bach has to say. In this first posting we’ll give an overview of the book, and discuss the first few chapters in depth.

Just to editorialize a little bit, I was initially skeptical about David’s book. I had looked over his earlier Book “Automatic Millionaire“, and found it useful, but I had not seen its relevancy for couples. After reading through “Smart Couples Finish Rich”, I’ve been pleasantly surprised.

Bach begins the book by pointing out that financial management in couples is a LOT harder than finance for individuals. Both people have different expectations, priorities and ways of organizing their finances. He then gives a five point overview of the goals of the book:

1) Learning to earn harmoniously as a couple

2) Looking at value and determining what’s most important ones life

3) Using the couples “latte factor” to transform your income into a large nest egg.

4) Setting up “baskets”, for example “dream basket”, “retirement basket”, and “security basket”.

5) Growing your income by 10 percent in 9 weeks.

The introduction is devoted to Bach’s first point, living harmoniously as a couple. In this case, Bach makes a key point: it’s not just about money. Fundamentally successful couples communicate and plan together. Finally he lays out many of the myths that get in the way of effective communication and financial planning.

Myth 1: If we love each other, we won’t fight about money.
Fact 1: Money has little to do with love, and a lot to do with how much you fight.

Myth 2: It takes money to make money.
Fact 2: It only takes a little bit of money to make money, as long as patience and discipline are exercised.

Myth 3: We don’t make enough to be investors.
Fact 3: Everyone makes enough to invest.

Myth 4: Taxes and inflation are now under control.
Fact 4: These factors will never be completely under control.

Myth 5: If we don’t talk about money, everything will be okay.
Fact 5: If you don’t discuss money, you will likely die broke.

Finally, Back notes that couples who do communicate well and plan together are far more likely to finish rich than couples who don’t!

Stay tuned for more!

-James

P.S. As always emails or comments are welcome.

Blogland Round up!

There are a couple of noteworthy posts from the greater blogosphere that we’re commenting on today.

Keith over at Housing Panic has a great post which details one real estate company’s expectations regarding the future of the housing market in the US. The long and the short of it is this company expects two or three years of declines, and intends to raise money to buy in 2008 through 2010.

Our man, Flexo, at Consumerism Commentary has posted some aggregate statistics on the current state of American wealth, you might want to go over and check it out.

Have a great Sunday!

Best,

James

Got James’sTax Return, Time to Buy Stock!

I checked my bank acocunt on Friday and was pleasantly surprised to see that my federal tax return had been deposited into my account. It was pretty large, about $9,300! (Thanks to our accountant for doing such a great job).

So, it’s time for one of James’ favorite activities: buying stock!

Since the market has been beaten down over the past few days, it seems like its a good time to pick up a few more shares. Of the $9,300, we’re planning on spending approximately $1,220 on stocks and using the rest for living expenses until James’ assistantship kicks in.

Since our shares of Hansens Natural constitutes so much of our holdings, we’ve decided to put some cash into other companies. Right now we’ve decided to purchase approximately $450 more of XOM, about $330 of Mariott International (MAR) about $440 of the Archer Daniels Midland Corp (ADM).

We’ll keep you updated!

-James

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