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		<title>By: Trudy</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-5666</link>
		<dc:creator>Trudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex.. You hit the nail on the head.  Before I had kids (and a husband) I had a LOT more money, way more freedom and more choices than necessary. But I had no purpose. Unless you are spending your energy and time to make the world a better place on either the local or global scale you are really going to miss out.  There is no amount of money and never is it the right time to have children..  But when they come the time is right.  If your truly adverse to the idea than it definitely not for you.. If  you&#039;re a teeter than be careful.  There is nothing that compares to family. NOTHING.  Blood is thicker than water.  And the blood you make is the thickest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex.. You hit the nail on the head.  Before I had kids (and a husband) I had a LOT more money, way more freedom and more choices than necessary. But I had no purpose. Unless you are spending your energy and time to make the world a better place on either the local or global scale you are really going to miss out.  There is no amount of money and never is it the right time to have children..  But when they come the time is right.  If your truly adverse to the idea than it definitely not for you.. If  you&#8217;re a teeter than be careful.  There is nothing that compares to family. NOTHING.  Blood is thicker than water.  And the blood you make is the thickest.</p>
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		<title>By: Totosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting discussion. I&#039;m almost 37, DINK, female, happily married to a man with the same views on children. I don&#039;t question my choice and don&#039;t overanalyze - just go with my gut. I came to this blog to see if there are many people like myself - I&#039;m kinda getting annoyed with my friends and family who see parenting as the ultimate goal in life and judge me for being different. I just want to hear a different opinion for a change. And I&#039;m writing in this blog to most sincerely thank DW #51 for what she wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion. I&#8217;m almost 37, DINK, female, happily married to a man with the same views on children. I don&#8217;t question my choice and don&#8217;t overanalyze &#8211; just go with my gut. I came to this blog to see if there are many people like myself &#8211; I&#8217;m kinda getting annoyed with my friends and family who see parenting as the ultimate goal in life and judge me for being different. I just want to hear a different opinion for a change. And I&#8217;m writing in this blog to most sincerely thank DW #51 for what she wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: E.R.</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-4906</link>
		<dc:creator>E.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to post above: (I typed too fast)

I noticed people here have LISTED “being alone” as a con to not having children. During the early 90s- 2005, my parents owned and ran a small residential facility that housed elderly residents, and I can assure you that a good portion of the elderly residents who had children were left at the facility during holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their children were too busy celebrating with their own FAMILIES and considered Mom/Dad to be an inconvenience at their festivities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to post above: (I typed too fast)</p>
<p>I noticed people here have LISTED “being alone” as a con to not having children. During the early 90s- 2005, my parents owned and ran a small residential facility that housed elderly residents, and I can assure you that a good portion of the elderly residents who had children were left at the facility during holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their children were too busy celebrating with their own FAMILIES and considered Mom/Dad to be an inconvenience at their festivities.</p>
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		<title>By: E.R.</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-4905</link>
		<dc:creator>E.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 35, and my husband is 33. We have been together for almost 9 years, and when I first met him, I told him right off the bat that I do not ever want children. Thankfully, the feeling was mutual!

I noticed people here have listen “being alone” as a con to not having children. During the early 90s- 2005, my parents owned and ran a small residential facility that housed elderly residents, and I can assure you that a good portion of the elderly residents who had children were left at the facility during holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their children were too busy celebrating with their own facilities and considered Mom/Dad to be an inconvenience at their festivities. My own parents cooked them Thanksgiving meals, gave them birthday presents and Christmas/Hannukah gifts- their own children did not. The visits from their children were short and often seemed like it was something they were doing because it was expected of them. The residents who did not have children were not “alone”. Many had friends or other relatives who came by to visit often and genuinely enjoyed their company. It was rare that these residents were at the facility during their birthdays or holidays and were often picked up. These residents chose not to make their lives fulfilling by having children, but instead chose to reach out and nurture their relationships with other human beings, charitable organizations, and animals. Many had spent their lives exploring, traveling, and giving back to the world, and were very satisfied with what they had done with their lives.

There are no guarantees in life that having children will guarantee you won’t be alone and that someone will love and take care of you in your old age.

I did notice the following things about those who have children:
Financially struggling, no money for activities or vacations
Less educated, less cultured, less worldly
Forced to remain at jobs they dislike and can’t take risks in job-hunting or advancing their careers
Look way older than childfree people the same age, especially the women- worn out, wrinkles, untidy, flabby, overweight
No spontaneity and no free time to nurture their friendships, which is why they often have to make friends with other kids’ parents and have “play dates”
At least 60% of what comes out of their mouth is about something relating to their kid(s). For those without kids, the subject matter gets tiresome!
Constant 24/7 stress from work, then at home
Practically non-existent sex life with their partner

Many of these parents will try to make you feel like you’re missing out on something. Sometimes it seems as if they just want someone to join them in their unhappiness.

As for having someone who “loves” you, my husband and I are completely fulfilled with our menagerie of animals- 3 cats, 1 chinchilla, and 1 bird. And when it’s their time, we will do our part and adopt/rescue more animals. People often tell us we missing out from the love that comes from having a child, but I disagree, because the love we have for our family, friends, and animals are a lot and more than we ever need!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 35, and my husband is 33. We have been together for almost 9 years, and when I first met him, I told him right off the bat that I do not ever want children. Thankfully, the feeling was mutual!</p>
<p>I noticed people here have listen “being alone” as a con to not having children. During the early 90s- 2005, my parents owned and ran a small residential facility that housed elderly residents, and I can assure you that a good portion of the elderly residents who had children were left at the facility during holidays such as Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their children were too busy celebrating with their own facilities and considered Mom/Dad to be an inconvenience at their festivities. My own parents cooked them Thanksgiving meals, gave them birthday presents and Christmas/Hannukah gifts- their own children did not. The visits from their children were short and often seemed like it was something they were doing because it was expected of them. The residents who did not have children were not “alone”. Many had friends or other relatives who came by to visit often and genuinely enjoyed their company. It was rare that these residents were at the facility during their birthdays or holidays and were often picked up. These residents chose not to make their lives fulfilling by having children, but instead chose to reach out and nurture their relationships with other human beings, charitable organizations, and animals. Many had spent their lives exploring, traveling, and giving back to the world, and were very satisfied with what they had done with their lives.</p>
<p>There are no guarantees in life that having children will guarantee you won’t be alone and that someone will love and take care of you in your old age.</p>
<p>I did notice the following things about those who have children:<br />
Financially struggling, no money for activities or vacations<br />
Less educated, less cultured, less worldly<br />
Forced to remain at jobs they dislike and can’t take risks in job-hunting or advancing their careers<br />
Look way older than childfree people the same age, especially the women- worn out, wrinkles, untidy, flabby, overweight<br />
No spontaneity and no free time to nurture their friendships, which is why they often have to make friends with other kids’ parents and have “play dates”<br />
At least 60% of what comes out of their mouth is about something relating to their kid(s). For those without kids, the subject matter gets tiresome!<br />
Constant 24/7 stress from work, then at home<br />
Practically non-existent sex life with their partner</p>
<p>Many of these parents will try to make you feel like you’re missing out on something. Sometimes it seems as if they just want someone to join them in their unhappiness.</p>
<p>As for having someone who “loves” you, my husband and I are completely fulfilled with our menagerie of animals- 3 cats, 1 chinchilla, and 1 bird. And when it’s their time, we will do our part and adopt/rescue more animals. People often tell us we missing out from the love that comes from having a child, but I disagree, because the love we have for our family, friends, and animals are a lot and more than we ever need!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-4774</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont  think having kids or not having kids makes you selfish, i also dont feel that i will be missing out on anything by choosing not to have kids,  i am acctually disgusted by people who assume that a dink is not whole or a marriage is not complete without children,  i in no means feel that having kids is a burden and not having kids is selfish i just know that everyone has  their own lives and  their own joys and happiness,  I am just as happy as everyone of my friends who has kids, and to the person who wrote that choosing to not have kids will slowly see a drop off of their friends is just crazy, people will be your friends regardless.  in the end a life without kids can be just as fulfilling as a life with kids, a little peice of you will always be left once you pass in the roles and relationships you have with people so you will not be imortalized in just the children you have but in the life you live.  so what i am finally getting to is. everyone needs to chose their own life and with out with out children try to make the best of your life and live each day. you will be happy with what ever choice you choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont  think having kids or not having kids makes you selfish, i also dont feel that i will be missing out on anything by choosing not to have kids,  i am acctually disgusted by people who assume that a dink is not whole or a marriage is not complete without children,  i in no means feel that having kids is a burden and not having kids is selfish i just know that everyone has  their own lives and  their own joys and happiness,  I am just as happy as everyone of my friends who has kids, and to the person who wrote that choosing to not have kids will slowly see a drop off of their friends is just crazy, people will be your friends regardless.  in the end a life without kids can be just as fulfilling as a life with kids, a little peice of you will always be left once you pass in the roles and relationships you have with people so you will not be imortalized in just the children you have but in the life you live.  so what i am finally getting to is. everyone needs to chose their own life and with out with out children try to make the best of your life and live each day. you will be happy with what ever choice you choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-4739</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this post.  When my husband and I discussed children before we got married, something that drew us to one another is that the list of things that we wanted to do with our lives did not involve children.  It&#039;s not that I hate children or I don&#039;t enjoy being around children, I have just never seen a child in my future.  I don&#039;t see how having a child could fill a void that I don&#039;t and won&#039;t have in my life.

That being said, I was adopted.  If I change my mind, I feel like I would be the ideal candidate to adopt a child.  I see no difference between &quot;biological&quot; and &quot;adopted&quot; children or parents; perhaps it takes someone who has been adopted to see that.  

Also, not all children who are up for adoption have problems.  I was not adopted as a baby.  There was nothing wrong with me, behaviorally or otherwise.  Please don&#039;t stereotype children who are up for adoption.  They&#039;re just children without parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this post.  When my husband and I discussed children before we got married, something that drew us to one another is that the list of things that we wanted to do with our lives did not involve children.  It&#8217;s not that I hate children or I don&#8217;t enjoy being around children, I have just never seen a child in my future.  I don&#8217;t see how having a child could fill a void that I don&#8217;t and won&#8217;t have in my life.</p>
<p>That being said, I was adopted.  If I change my mind, I feel like I would be the ideal candidate to adopt a child.  I see no difference between &#8220;biological&#8221; and &#8220;adopted&#8221; children or parents; perhaps it takes someone who has been adopted to see that.  </p>
<p>Also, not all children who are up for adoption have problems.  I was not adopted as a baby.  There was nothing wrong with me, behaviorally or otherwise.  Please don&#8217;t stereotype children who are up for adoption.  They&#8217;re just children without parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie C.</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-4725</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m over 60, and have always known I did not want kids.  I can&#039;t even understand why anyone does.  First of all, nothing screws up a woman&#039;s body like having kids.  A friend of mine actually had to have surgery to repair the damage of having 2 babies.  Boobs &amp; ass both go flat &amp; flabby.  Then you&#039;re stuck with something that is completely dependent and self-centered (until h/she moves out, if ever), noisy, smelly, messy.  Then s/he gets to the teen years, and it gets worse: combative, hateful, possibly on drugs or in and out of trouble with the law; or, if a she, gets knocked up, and you&#039;re stuck with raising your grandkids.  All the while, these &quot;parents&quot; are expecting other people to pay for schooling (especially if there are special needs), possibly even food and clothes, because they couldn&#039;t afford to have kids in the first place.  Not to mention, we have  higher standards for breeding animals than we have for parenting kids.  The lower classes seem to have only one thing they know how to do: breed more welfare cases.  You can call me selfish all day long, but I can support myself, and I&#039;m not expecting taxpayers to foot the bill for my progeny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m over 60, and have always known I did not want kids.  I can&#8217;t even understand why anyone does.  First of all, nothing screws up a woman&#8217;s body like having kids.  A friend of mine actually had to have surgery to repair the damage of having 2 babies.  Boobs &amp; ass both go flat &amp; flabby.  Then you&#8217;re stuck with something that is completely dependent and self-centered (until h/she moves out, if ever), noisy, smelly, messy.  Then s/he gets to the teen years, and it gets worse: combative, hateful, possibly on drugs or in and out of trouble with the law; or, if a she, gets knocked up, and you&#8217;re stuck with raising your grandkids.  All the while, these &#8220;parents&#8221; are expecting other people to pay for schooling (especially if there are special needs), possibly even food and clothes, because they couldn&#8217;t afford to have kids in the first place.  Not to mention, we have  higher standards for breeding animals than we have for parenting kids.  The lower classes seem to have only one thing they know how to do: breed more welfare cases.  You can call me selfish all day long, but I can support myself, and I&#8217;m not expecting taxpayers to foot the bill for my progeny.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are absolutely right...we do not need anymore selfish, spoiled, bratty, annoying, egotistical people in the world...wait, am I describing kids or DINKS?? Maybe you SHOULD leave the reproducing to people who can actually think about someone other than themselves for two whole seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely right&#8230;we do not need anymore selfish, spoiled, bratty, annoying, egotistical people in the world&#8230;wait, am I describing kids or DINKS?? Maybe you SHOULD leave the reproducing to people who can actually think about someone other than themselves for two whole seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gonzo</title>
		<link>http://www.dinksfinance.com/2010/06/dinks-smart-or-selfish/#comment-4691</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t be having children because I would like to have more money in my pockets to afford a nice lifestyle, and because I&#039;m gay. I&#039;m one of six siblings, so the whole kid thing has lost its appeal to me years ago. Besides, you can always babysit other people&#039;s kids and host foreign exchange students, etc.; even though they&#039;re not your own, you&#039;ll get a very small taste of what it&#039;s like. (And after you get that taste, you can travel to Timbuktu, resources permitting, if you&#039;d like.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t be having children because I would like to have more money in my pockets to afford a nice lifestyle, and because I&#8217;m gay. I&#8217;m one of six siblings, so the whole kid thing has lost its appeal to me years ago. Besides, you can always babysit other people&#8217;s kids and host foreign exchange students, etc.; even though they&#8217;re not your own, you&#8217;ll get a very small taste of what it&#8217;s like. (And after you get that taste, you can travel to Timbuktu, resources permitting, if you&#8217;d like.)</p>
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		<title>By: momof3</title>
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		<dc:creator>momof3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 03:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a mother of 3 beautiful children and a loving husband.  

Don&#039;t have kids.
When you have kids, 
1.  you can&#039;t eat, sleep, or go to the restroom whenever you want.
2.  you can&#039;t have the career that you want
3.  huge expense... not only to raise kids.. but also for having reduced income
4.  you always eat the left overs
5.  can&#039;t dine at fine restaurants
6.  can&#039;t take a nap whenever you want
7.  you will always be tired
8.  you will not have time for friends
9.  you have to cook 3 meals a day, plus provide snacks
10. you have triple the laundry
11. you have to do triple the dishes
12.  you are basically a housemaid, cook, doctor, teacher, psychologist, driver, shopper
13. you will have more arguments with your husband
14. you are more likely to get divorced when you have kids
15. you are more likely to end up in poverty 
16.  you will have less quality of life
17.  your health will decline

NO mother will ever say they regret having children... &#039;cause once you have children, they are more than your own life.  Your life ceases to exist because your kids needs to be a priority.  If you want to raise children who will not end up in jail, you must devote a lot of your time and effort in raising children.  You can&#039;t party, go out every night, and spend money elsewhere.  I would rather spend money in hiring a tutor for my kids than to spend that money dining out at a fancy restaurant.  And money is limited.  I don&#039;t have millions of dollars to be able to do both. Even if you do, it&#039;s still a lot of responsibility and work.  All for what?  You can have just as meaningful relationships with nieces and nephews, or kids from volunteering work.   

Children are huge cost to taxpayers.

  We are overpopulating the earth.  Earth has limited source of resources and human population is exponentially increasing, depleting our natural resources.  We have wars, and kill each other whenever we are fighting for these resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a mother of 3 beautiful children and a loving husband.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t have kids.<br />
When you have kids,<br />
1.  you can&#8217;t eat, sleep, or go to the restroom whenever you want.<br />
2.  you can&#8217;t have the career that you want<br />
3.  huge expense&#8230; not only to raise kids.. but also for having reduced income<br />
4.  you always eat the left overs<br />
5.  can&#8217;t dine at fine restaurants<br />
6.  can&#8217;t take a nap whenever you want<br />
7.  you will always be tired<br />
8.  you will not have time for friends<br />
9.  you have to cook 3 meals a day, plus provide snacks<br />
10. you have triple the laundry<br />
11. you have to do triple the dishes<br />
12.  you are basically a housemaid, cook, doctor, teacher, psychologist, driver, shopper<br />
13. you will have more arguments with your husband<br />
14. you are more likely to get divorced when you have kids<br />
15. you are more likely to end up in poverty<br />
16.  you will have less quality of life<br />
17.  your health will decline</p>
<p>NO mother will ever say they regret having children&#8230; &#8217;cause once you have children, they are more than your own life.  Your life ceases to exist because your kids needs to be a priority.  If you want to raise children who will not end up in jail, you must devote a lot of your time and effort in raising children.  You can&#8217;t party, go out every night, and spend money elsewhere.  I would rather spend money in hiring a tutor for my kids than to spend that money dining out at a fancy restaurant.  And money is limited.  I don&#8217;t have millions of dollars to be able to do both. Even if you do, it&#8217;s still a lot of responsibility and work.  All for what?  You can have just as meaningful relationships with nieces and nephews, or kids from volunteering work.   </p>
<p>Children are huge cost to taxpayers.</p>
<p>  We are overpopulating the earth.  Earth has limited source of resources and human population is exponentially increasing, depleting our natural resources.  We have wars, and kill each other whenever we are fighting for these resources.</p>
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